Lap Around Arizona

#21
PilotJO: The mention of "being submitted" referred to proposing a new In-State "Lap Of" ride or In-State "Ride Around" ride to be added to the list of rides attached below.
Understgood, and @Ira and @kwthom both mentioned first the ride needs to be ridden successfully or not to ID specific problems and documentation requirements/photos/electronic tracking etc.
 
#22
Hey all. I'm interested in the Lap of Arizona as well. Although not right now with snow already in the White Mountain area. I am thinking of doing a SS1000 or BB1500 to hit at least one point in each of the counties in a state type of ride. Has anyone mapped out hitting at least one point in each of the 15 counties of Az? Working on one myself right now but hard to find a route mapper that includes county borders on the map.
 

Brian Thorn

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#24
I just happened to come across this thread tonight. Howard and I have been in casual conversation for a few months about the Ride Around Arizona and he knows that you really can't hit all four corners and get a DBR at those locations. We're still in discussion but this is the most recent map that I sent him. I don't plan to ride this until after the snow melts in the higher elevations, and even then it will just be a preliminary shakedown ride to ensure that fuel can be obtained, receipts can be obtained, and to see what the anticipated travel time will be. If someone else wants to jump in line ahead of me I certainly have no issues with that; just make sure you run everything by Howard before you start riding.

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outdoorsntn

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#27
Has anyone tried applying the "Lap Of" rules in the "Lap of Tennessee" rules page in creating a "Lap Of" route for Arizona? Notice, you do not have to finish in the same city where you started. This could possibly also apply to Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, and Wyoming.
 
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kwthom

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#29
Has anyone tried applying the "Lap Of" rules in the "Lap of Tennessee" rules page in creating a "Lap Of" route for Arizona? Notice, you do not have to finish in the same city where you started. This could possibly also apply to Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, and Wyoming.
Thus the semantics issue... ;)

The four 'corner' locations to easily access fuel 24 hours a day are San Luis, Douglas, Red Mesa and MM27, which is closest to White Hills. Google rough map for discussion - note that Hannagan Meadow and Safford are waypoints, otherwise, Google WILL route you into New Mexico.

https://goo.gl/maps/5u4xUe7DQUSbgEBA7

Going back to the starting point gives a 26 hour, 1582 mile ride. The delta between what @Brian Thorn posted above and this really doesn't get you significantly closer to making a full 'ride around' of the state.

https://goo.gl/maps/XaUDRB3jwMiST5JDA

The eastern edge of that route is 500 miles, of which 90 miles or so between Clifton and Alpine is the fun & twisty part of that highway.

Back to Brian's map...from Page, you can back-track and get to either Fredonia or all the way to Colorado City. There looks to be a single fuel stop in Colorado City, and that's 142 miles one-way from Page. There's always the Jacob Lake stop for fuel, and no fuel @ Bitter Springs, which you pass thru to get back onto US-89, which is where @Russ Black mileage comes from, I suspect.

So, 2000 miles divided by ~43MPH is 46.5 riding hours. Rough in another 8.5 hours for non-moving activities (make the math easy...) and that's 55 hours. The simple fact of back-tracking to account as much as possible for that north-western edge makes that ~280 miles something of a "Why bother?" part of the ride.
 

EricV

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#30
There is no reliable gas in Colorado City. Most go across the border to the Border Store for gas, putting it beyond the border of AZ. There is gas at the Arizona Last Stop, a tad farther North than the "Last Stop Travel Center" on 93. Not sure if it's 24 hour pumps or not.

FIFY - LINK with gas stations instead of cities, all of which have addresses in the required cities. Is it really a "Lap of" if you don't close the loop, but still hit the corners? If you closed the loop, you could stop at Kingman if you started in White Hills. Just a thought. LINK trims it to 1528 miles.
 

kwthom

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#31
Gas @ 36.972243, -112.974215 per Google Street View from April in Colorado City.

The "Lap of ..." rides are drawing the approximate shape of the state as a part of the ride. Arizona doesn't qualify for the reasons discussed earlier.



So, it's simply how much of Arizona is sufficient for a "Ride Around..." ride. Choosing which NW corner location is left to the first person that physically does the ride and submits it for approval.

Doing a significant amount of backtracking to get to locations along the southern border...looks like this: https://goo.gl/maps/nkUp6aFmxZA765YD9

Lukeville & Sasabe are NOT 24/7 fuel locations that I know of; the border crossings are closed during late night/early morning hours.

Semantics...
 

EricV

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#32
Gas @ 36.972243, -112.974215 per Google Street View from April in Colorado City.
Well, that is new. Bee's used to be a little store down the road to the West of 389. At least you're not encouraged to go into Colorado City to get gas or shop, which is as expected for a polygamist community.