Life after the IBR

Qikslvr

Active Member
#21
You're not an idiot
Lol, it's not the crash that leads me to call myself an idiot. It's the fact that I went down BIA roads in the same area during BL7. 42 miles of pure hell, and yet I decided to go down it anyway. I'm an idiot for knowing what to expect and still expecting something different.

Congrats on finishing your first rally as the IBR, that's quite an accomplishment. I was planning and training for 4 years to ride the IBR. A couple of years of just LD rides to make sure I could put in the miles, then many rallies to refine my process. I DNF'd and you finished, so maybe there's something to be said for just doing it.

I agree with you about preparation though. Watch, read, practice, ride, and rally. Then figure out what works for you and refine the heck out of that process.

Good luck on BL8. I'm in it, but I was waiting at midnight when registration opened. I rode BL7 and knew it would sell out quick. I'm also registering for IBR17, since I have some unfinished business.
 

rodneyw71

KLR'er
Premier Member
#22
I signed up for the Strange election grand tour and I'm going to use it to try and get some bigger certs and see if I can do multi 1000 mile days, I have a lot of work to do with my bikes, equipment and myself, I ordered hard miles 2 so I can see what the rally is like.
 
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Roy Kjendal

#23
Hi Tim,
Just wanted to thank you for all the effort you put into your presentation AND your tools. Especially thanks for being so willing to share this stuff with us. I hope to use these tools on my 2016 rallies and (Hopefully) in the 2017 big dance......
 

HardTxRider

Premier Member
IBR Finisher
#25
Tim, does your overall mph include the rest bonus time?
Yes, the Overall Average MPH or KPH is the measure of Ride Pace that captures all time used from start to finish of an event. It is the sum of all time spent; riding, pit stops, rest stops and bonus task stops.

The Overall Avg MPH is defined as event total miles or kilometers traveled divided by event total time.
 
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Scott Miller

An American in Europe
Premier Member
#26
Hi Tim,

Thanks again for posting the links to your presentations and planning tool. I have a follow-up question on your RLPT or RLPT Light worksheets, which may be relevant for the forum, or may already have been covered in previous discussions. Before I spend more time, I thought I would ask you:

I do my rally planning on a Mac Airbook and have MS Office installed there. The copying of Bonus Point names does not appear to work at all from Basecamp into RLPT and the route directions do not paste in correctly. Is this a function of incompatibility with the Mac versions?

If this is an issue with Mac, then I can always use your worksheet on my work PC.

Another question: how difficult would it be to modify the worksheet for Europe (kmh and kilmeters vs. mph and miles)?
 

HardTxRider

Premier Member
IBR Finisher
#27
Hi Tim,

Thanks again for posting the links to your presentations and planning tool. I have a follow-up question on your RLPT or RLPT Light worksheets, which may be relevant for the forum, or may already have been covered in previous discussions. Before I spend more time, I thought I would ask you:

I do my rally planning on a Mac Airbook and have MS Office installed there. The copying of Bonus Point names does not appear to work at all from Basecamp into RLPT and the route directions do not paste in correctly. Is this a function of incompatibility with the Mac versions?

If this is an issue with Mac, then I can always use your worksheet on my work PC.

Another question: how difficult would it be to modify the worksheet for Europe (kmh and kilmeters vs. mph and miles)?
Scott, I haven't ever tried using any of the tools I developed on a MAC.

BaseCamp does have an annoying feature that does not allow for the standard cut/paste function work as one would expect. Specifically, when you create a route in BaseCamp, then display its properties box that summarizes times and distances to each waypoint in the route, if you highlight the entire box only the waypoint names will be copied to the clip board.

If the route turn by turn directions do not line up correctly in the RLPT worksheet I have put a help box to explain how to fix it. But, your paste issue may be different from the occasional one I experience.
 

Ignacio

IBR Finisher
#28
What does a LD Rider do after they finish or win the IBR? I
That's a good question. I have a variety of answers to it because my answer has changed multiple times over a decade that I first rode an IBR. With the latest change still unfolding as I type, and something I haven't talked about with anybody really yet...so bear with me.

I was fortunate enough...and driven enough I think....to make my first IBR happen fairly quickly once I started LD riding in 2004. Finished my first SaddleSore on my newly acquired FJR with a BBG and rally about 6 months later in 2005. Then I was drawn for 2007 and pretty tickled with a top 20 finish.

So, after that IBR...I wanted to do it again and finish in the top 10.

And in 2009 another fortunate chance to ride and I had a flash of brilliance with a monster 2nd leg to move to 6th place. And then some mechanical and mental fog in the last leg and slipped to 13th. Still danged proud, but competing in an 11 day event is a different critter than short rallies.

So, after that IBR I reassessed and wasn't sure about riding the IBR again. Was it a 2nd solid performance I'd pulled off or a monkey on my back for a top 10?

I think it was both.

I didn't ride 2011, in part, from another commitment.

And in 2013 I got myself in the best shape I had been in the last 20 years, still wanted a top 10 finish and set my sites higher for a win. I had another monster 2nd leg with a move to 2nd place. And probably just as importantly....Higdon wrote about me!

But I'd made myself a bit crispy to get to that point and made a suboptimal route choice the final leg. I just didn't have in it me to face the humidity and heat of the south..which presents a fair question of whether I'm that tough after all...or tough enough to win the IBR. Throw in a full-on blown shock and slipped another spot or two to 5th place. One monkey off and pretty danged proud I've finished three IBRs, but do I now have the worst monkey of all on my back as I'm capable of possibly winning it?

I dunno...

I'd also done several special rides in 2014 and 2015 that were personal challenges and while I won't talk about them on the Internet...some of my LD friends know they happened and that's just fine...wink...wink. ;)

You'd detect a trend here that I'd be aiming to try again in the next IBR and I would say I was on that course the summer of 2015to do exactly that. I rode in a 36 hour rally and was playing leapfrog with a former IBR winner, whom is my hero and also told me he was planning 2017. I decided that morning I'd apply for 2017.

But, then I hit a pair of sheep in the middle-of-nowhwere Wyoming that afternoon and splatted. Splatted hard.

My first real motorcycle accident in my life. The kind of accident they call in a helicopter to take you to the regional trauma center kind. The kind that requires follow-up surgery to insert titanium pieces into your body and special notes from the doctor afterward how bad it was kind of stuff.

It rattled me. I'm still rattled. And I'm not going to apply for the 2017 for sure. I may very well be post IBR now and that's totally OK.

I decided laying in my bed before shoulder surgery that instead of going and buying a brand-new shiny FJR that I'm going to go pause LD riding and pursue my private pilots license. I want to learn to fly and am starting ground school TONIGHT! I hear planes are cheaper than LD riding....snerk.

So, I haven't signed up to ride in any competitive rallies this season. That's the first in 11 years and I'm a little unsure of my footing at the moment.

However, I do know I'll ride again.
I'm already planning an adventure ride to Alaska this summer on my other bike. So, part of another my answer is going to be that I will probably shift more of my riding time to 300 mile days instead of 1300 mile ones that involve a hammock between two trees somewhere about dark. It means visiting some of the places I've spent 2 minutes at before or snapped picture of the entrance for...and actually enjoying!

I just know I've gotten to do some pretty magical rides and see some phenomenal places the past decade and this sport-hobby has lasted longer than usual for me that has tried a bunch of them in life. And I know I'll ride again.

And I know I've gotten away with a lot. Even after factoring in the broken bones and recovery time I've been lucky. Ask me about my relationship with the ET Highway sometime not online....heh.

I just don't know if I'll ride another IBR again and totally fine with it.

To somebody that wants to do the IBR.....I can only say that if you're truly driven enough...you'll find a way to do it. And there's already been a lot of good advice already given.

I hope that answers your question from one IBR rider's perspective.

Matt Watkins
IBA #332
 
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Ira

Staff member
Premier Member
IBA Member
IBR Finisher
IBR Staff
#29
I decided laying in my bed before shoulder surgery that instead of going and buying a brand-new shiny FJR that I'm going to go pause LD riding and pursue my private pilots license. I want to learn to fly and am starting ground school TONIGHT!

Matt Watkins
IBA #332
Does your mother know about this?? :)

Ira
 
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Ignacio

IBR Finisher
#30
Does your mother know about this?? :)

Ira
She's embraced it! Or at least to the point that she is convinced she's far less likely to have to charter a plan to come visit me in the emergency room with this endeavor and that friends tell her the statistics for wadding up a Cessna are more favorable than Yamahas.
 

Rony6ble

Premier Member
#31
More rallying is my plan, but I wouldn't know seeing as how I haven't actually ever finished an IBR yet.

As for training, Paul Tong and I do a rally clinic in DFW in September. We go over stuff like strategy and transferring data to GPSs.
Link to the clinic?

I enjoy Tim'S videos, very detailed and methodically explained.
There are some power points, rally 101 I think by Greg Rice, Google it, the talk about mapping software (S&T), there is Basecamp now.

I hope I can ride an IBR one day
 
#32
I have enjoyed vacation trips that include bonus locations I visited during the IBR. Seeing them during the day with no time pressure is great. Sometimes I happen upon a past bonus by accident. Last year my wife and I took the train ride from Durango to Silverton and I realized as we pulled into town that I had been there before, in the dark and in the rain back in 2003.

Another thing that has been fun to do is bonus scouting for the MN1K. The rally master gave me some destinations to check out and I called his attention to other interesting things I happened upon. The scouting trips were like mini-rallies and it was interesting to get a better understanding of how a rally is constructed.

Lately I have been entertaining myself with the photo-tag games on ADVrider. They are like riding a rally one bonus at a time. I take part in the Greater Twin Cities, Central US, and Wisconsin games. It helps that my wife is a master tag finder. All I have to do is ride there.
 

Patrick Ford

Premier Member
IBR Finisher
#36
As to what we thought about after DNFing the 13 rally? I thought about all the mistakes I as the rider made which contributed to my daughters Hyponatremia. I think I spelled that right. What happened is that we didn't eat and the sodium level in her body sunk to critical levels. Rather, I didn't feed her enough, I have enough stored to hibernate if needed. Those thoughts haunted me for two years, along with changing the route on leg 3 while on the fly, which everyone will tell you is something you want to avoid. She spent the night of day 10 in the ER instead of running hard for the finish, I think we would have made it in on time, 1750 miles in 26 hours but it was all I 70 and I 80. We will never know. :eek:)
In the 15 rally, which we finished, we had a plan and never deviated from it. We did what we needed and got what was needed. I didn't even check the points available only that we had enough states and parks. The only thoughts after the rally were naturally, could we have done better? Hell yes, but we accomplished our goal so we did OK.
 

tdragger

Premier Member
IBR Finisher
#37
Uh...partially. For about 2 months prior to the rally I had one emergency after another, culminating with a broken shifter pivot bolt that caused me to ride to the bike shop in first gear the day before I left for the start. The owner fixed it and had me back on the road in 3 hours after my failing for 3 days. The profile pic was day 1 about 200 miles into the rally on a BIA road in Arizona. I dropped it 2 more times before I got out of the ruts. Then I hit a deer in Wyoming that night. And I high sided coming back onto the road from a low shoulder in Nebraska. Then a mere 30 miles from the first checkpoint in Albuquerque, I looked down to change my audio system and when I looked up there was a SUV doing 10 miles under the speed limit, and I hit him. All things considered, I scored out for the first leg and told Lisa I was dropping out. It wasn't worth the next accident being the one I couldn't walk away from. So I walked away while I still could.
Oh Qikslvr, I just bought my rally bike, a Trophy. I hope that I don't end up with a picture like yours. It's top heavy so I'm not surprised that it's a bear on a dirt road.
 
#38
What does a LD Rider do after they finish or win the IBR? (snipped)
For me, I rode home from the 2013 IBR (approximately 200 miles), parked the bike until August 2013 when I rode to Aerostich in Duluth, Minnesota to order a Roadcrafter, rode back home, and have ridden about 4,500 miles since (nearly three years now and less than half the miles I rode in the rally itself).

I look back at the 2013 IBR as one of the best experiences I have ever had on a motorcycle, and each aspect of the event itself (registration, anticipation, notification, check-in, riding, scoring, and finishing) have provided memories of thethat I consider priceless treasures to me. However, the IBR also enlightened me, and that's why I ride more for the joy of experiencing fresh air than for scoring bonus points. I suppose the IBR turned me into a flower-sniffer.

But, that's just me. I hope for you, rodneyw71, that you gain the riding experience necessary to participate in the IBR someday and that you experience for yourself the Treasures that Await.

Good luck, and Ride Safe,

Steve Bennett
#478
 

rodneyw71

KLR'er
Premier Member
#39
For me, I rode home from the 2013 IBR (approximately 200 miles), parked the bike until August 2013 when I rode to Aerostich in Duluth, Minnesota to order a Roadcrafter, rode back home, and have ridden about 4,500 miles since (nearly three years now and less than half the miles I rode in the rally itself).

I look back at the 2013 IBR as one of the best experiences I have ever had on a motorcycle, and each aspect of the event itself (registration, anticipation, notification, check-in, riding, scoring, and finishing) have provided memories of thethat I consider priceless treasures to me. However, the IBR also enlightened me, and that's why I ride more for the joy of experiencing fresh air than for scoring bonus points. I suppose the IBR turned me into a flower-sniffer.

But, that's just me. I hope for you, rodneyw71, that you gain the riding experience necessary to participate in the IBR someday and that you experience for yourself the Treasures that Await.

Good luck, and Ride Safe,

Steve Bennett
#478
I'm doing my first rally in April, been going through the bike, trying to get things like the tools I'll need to secure the rally flag at each bonus, been playing with my route program and gps, because when I get the rally book I want to just concentrate on how I'm going to route myself, I just want to have fun, be safe and not be late for the finish.
 

cacomly

Premier Member
IBR Finisher
#40
2015 was my first IBR and I was barely ready for it. I went into it knowing I'd be in it for at least two attempts (assuming of course I was selected twice).

My hat is in for the 2017 IBR. If I get in will that be my last? Who knows. Besides rallying I like flower sniffing so I will likely go back to more relaxed paced touring trips. Or I will go back to flying since I have not piloted an airplane for 2 years :)