Multiple certificates in one ride

Slasher

Premier Member
#24
Here are all my certs. One of the SS1000 certs is a cert I got during a BBG1500. I knew I couldn't use that one towards my Mile Eater Silver, but I still felt like I earned it. Its that considered a Cert Whore, so be it.. ;)



I have added 4 more TOH Certs since this picture.
Hey big daddy, what is the certificate with the American flag background? I like the unique IBA certificates, the JAX party always has good ones up for grabs!
 

BigDaddy

Premier Member
#25
Hey Slasher, that is from the Memorial Day Iron Butt Ride I did last year. If you google 2015 Memorial Iron Butt Ride, it should take you to a page with all the memorial rides in it.
 

Joseph Kappes

Kankujoe
Premier Member
#26
Not sure what all the fuss is about.... IBA challenge rides are personal goals certified by an independent panel. Either the IBA approves the certificate or it doesn't. If it is approved it should not be questioned as to whether it is legitimate. The purist argument taken to its logical conclusion would disallow even collecting a national park stamp or visiting a lighthouse while pursuing a SS, BB, 50CC, UCC, or any other combination because you can't do two things at once.
I've even heard of people claiming that you can only use a IBA license plate backer on the actual bike you did the ride on. So much for ever getting a new bike.
 

JAVGuzzi

Premier Member
#27
Joe said : " I've even heard of people claiming that you can only use a IBA license plate backer on the actual bike you did the ride on. So much for ever getting a new bike. "

No problem, Joe !!! Just do another IBA ride on the new bike.

BTW, I'm planning on doing the MIO Ride in August on the nice '83 GL1100I I bought last year. Never know when I will run into one of those Riders who think that way !!!
 
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rodneyw71

KLR'er
Premier Member
#28
Not sure what all the fuss is about.... IBA challenge rides are personal goals certified by an independent panel. Either the IBA approves the certificate or it doesn't. If it is approved it should not be questioned as to whether it is legitimate. The purist argument taken to its logical conclusion would disallow even collecting a national park stamp or visiting a lighthouse while pursuing a SS, BB, 50CC, UCC, or any other combination because you can't do two things at once.
I've even heard of people claiming that you can only use a IBA license plate backer on the actual bike you did the ride on. So much for ever getting a new bike.
I agree with the plate backer, I didn't put one on my klr until I did a ride on it, the bike has to earn it.
I'm also going to be in a dilemma this summer, I'm riding to Williams Arizona, but catching the train to the grand canyon, can I put a grand canyon sticker in the trunk of my voyager? I will have rode to Arizona, but the bike didn't go to the canyon, don't know what I'll do yet.
 

Slasher

Premier Member
#29
I was a plate backer "purist" until I got a new bike. I fought the urge to put a backer on it for a few months but... Then I thought about it this way... If you complete the IBR, you will earn an IBR plate backer, probably the most coveted and respected one there is. Then, later on, you get a new bike... You could theoretically enter the drawing for every IBR held for the rest of your life and not get picked to even have the chance of your new bike "earning" an IBR backer so... Would you not just put the IBR backer on the new bike? I put a new backer on my new bike and a few months later, it earned it in earnest on the Battlefield 1000. Even if I never rode another ride, I earned those backers,and my bike wears them proudly.
 

Joseph Kappes

Kankujoe
Premier Member
#30
Taking that logic even further.... I don't need to do the ride.... all I have to do is buy a used bike that DID the ride.... or have someone do the ride on your bike.... any IBR finishers out there want to sell their bike? Buy the bike get a IBA three digit number as part of the deal....

Come on, this is ridiculous! Its not the bike, its the rider.
 

rodneyw71

KLR'er
Premier Member
#31
Taking that logic even further.... I don't need to do the ride.... all I have to do is buy a used bike that DID the ride.... or have someone do the ride on your bike.... any IBR finishers out there want to sell their bike? Buy the bike get a IBA three digit number as part of the deal....

Come on, this is ridiculous! Its not the bike, its the rider.
I think that counts, if you buy a bike that did a IBA ride then it can have a backer, the IBR backer is like having a superbowl ring, that one follows you everywhere, but how hard is it to buy a new bike and do a ss1000, then the bike is now officially in the record books with you.
 

rodneyw71

KLR'er
Premier Member
#33
You're kidding right?

You really believe the bike earned the backer?

If the bike did it an IBR rider would not be allowed to continue on a second bike if his primary bike broke down.

The bike is a tool... the pilot accomplishes the goal....
Everybody's got their own quirks, I bought my klr last March, I didn't do a IBA ride on it until August, and that's when it got it's own plate back, if I do a ride and get a sticker for the trunk of my voyager, can I put the same sticker on my klr? I agree its the rider, but if you did a ride on a recliner on wheels, is it ok to put a plate back on a hard tail chopper that hasn't been on a cert ride?
 

JAVGuzzi

Premier Member
#34
Well. here is another take ....... If you have multiple bikes and you earned a certificate on the one bike that would be considered to be the hardest to complete a certified ride on, then you have earned the right to also have a plate on all your other bikes.

For instance, I did my first four IBA rides on an old '89 Moto Guzzi GT ( #1 ) and then an older '76 Moto Guzzi Convert ( #2-#4 ) and I didn't realize what a beating I was taking until I bought my ST1100. The forks on those old Guzzi's have a lot of stiction because they don't have bushings in the front forks and they have bad damping, too.

But personally, I won't put a backer plate on a bike that I didn't do a certified ride on. I wouldn't feel right otherwise.

But that's just me ............

I'm getting my GL1100I in shape for the MIO Ride in August. I have installed a pair of RaceTech Emulators in the front forks and a set of the correct weight Sonic springs in the forks. Tom Fay gave me a heads-up after the Lake Huron Ride last year; he rode a GL1100 and was complaining about some of the "rough roads" . None of them felt rough to me on my ST1100 with the RaceTech front fork mods.
 
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Joseph Kappes

Kankujoe
Premier Member
#35
I thought these were "Iron BUTT" rides, not Iron BIKE rides.

It has been written many times in IBA literature that the license plate backer is the official membership card for the IBA member.

Who exactly is the IBA member? The pilot who does the ride or the bike that was used on the ride?

I own five bikes, two of which I do my LD rides & IBA rides. So, when I ride one of the other three bikes (or any future bike) I'm a poser or worse, a cheater if I have a IBA backer or IBA decal on these bikes?

I simply can't follow the logic.
 

rodneyw71

KLR'er
Premier Member
#36
I thought these were "Iron BUTT" rides, not Iron BIKE rides.

It has been written many times in IBA literature that the license plate backer is the official membership card for the IBA member.

Who exactly is the IBA member? The pilot who does the ride or the bike that was used on the ride?

I own five bikes, two of which I do my LD rides & IBA rides. So, when I ride one of the other three bikes (or any future bike) I'm a poser or worse, a cheater if I have a IBA backer or IBA decal on these bikes?

I simply can't follow the logic.
Your exactly right, it's the official membership card, not going to argue that point.
 

JAVGuzzi

Premier Member
#37
Joe : When it comes to LD Riding, most of the time logic is thrown out the window. Remember, we probably have a defective gene.

But, of course it's the decision of the individual with the IBA number to put a plate on any of their bikes that they desire to. But I can tell you, my butt was a lot "sorer" after the SS1K's I did on my old '76 Moto Guzzi compared to my trusty ST1100.

But if I had a Honda Grome, I sure as heck wouldn't put an IBA backer plate on it ...................

But that's just me. Others with an IBA number may want to put one on their Grome and that's their prerogative.
 

Joseph Kappes

Kankujoe
Premier Member
#38
Joe : When it comes to LD Riding, most of the time logic is thrown out the window. Remember, we probably have a defective gene.

But, of course it's the decision of the individual with the IBA number to put a plate on any of their bikes that they desire to. But I can tell you, my butt was a lot "sorer" after the SS1K's I did on my old '76 Moto Guzzi compared to my trusty ST1100.

But if I had a Honda Grome, I sure as heck wouldn't put an IBA backer plate on it ...................

But that's just me. Others with an IBA number may want to put one on their Grome and that's their prerogative.
I can see the logic of this, it is certainly a valid position.

My take, from my experience:

In the process of doing the first two of my four National Parks Tours I used a combination of all of my bikes. On some of my trips to national parks I rode my dual sports because I also wanted to ride the fire trails & off road routes to & through these parks.

I did not choose the bike that was most comfortable or most uncomfortable to enhance the experience. I choose the bike I thought was most appropriate for the planned ride.

All of my bikes have successfully accomplished their desired function during these IBA NPTs.
 
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Farkleit

Premier Member
#39
If a multi day ride covering a selection of specific rides. Is a start form signed by a witness required for each segment.
Or
A signed start document with witnesss day one and then otjer docs along the way such as fuel dockets. Spot Track etc and then a signed witness form on the last day of the multi day ride.
 
#40
If a multi day ride covering a selection of specific rides. Is a start form signed by a witness required for each segment.
Or
A signed start document with witnesss day one and then otjer docs along the way such as fuel dockets. Spot Track etc and then a signed witness form on the last day of the multi day ride.
I believe the rule is you don't have to look for a witness "on the clock".