In the description for the To Hell and Back ride (the one to Hell, MI), the description indicates you can start anywhere and then "return to your starting location." Does starting location mean same city (ie wherever your starting DBR is showing)? Or is it literally the same place (ie gas station) where you got your start DBR? Trying to figure out where to plan my starting point for the ride. TIA!
To Hell and Back question
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It's always a good idea when asking questions about a specific IBA ride to link to the ride page - To Hell and Back
Within this context - "You must start your SS1000 anywhere, ride to Hell, MI, and return to your starting location." Location can be defined just as it is for the DBR -
DBR - Dated Business Receipt
A DBR is a machine generated receipt with the date, time and LOCATION on it. Check it - do not assume it is correct. A receipt with an incorrect time/date/location is worthless. Check and re-check.
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What this means if if you got a start receipt in Graham, NC at the Shell on Main St, your end receipt needs to also have a location of Graham, NC on it. It doesn't matter if it's the Citgo on East Elm St or from the Bank of America drive through ATM on Pine st across from the Fire Station, it just has to specifically say Graham, NC for it's location. And both are inside the Graham city boundaries. You might get away with the Circle K on E Harden st. but it's not technically inside Graham, even though it does have a Graham address. (zero issue if you used it on both ends)
So to answer your question, Yes it can be the same city. But also Yes, it can mean the exact same location too.
IMHO If you want your certificate to say that you rode from Graham, NC to Hell, MI, then start and end inside the city limits of Graham. (or what ever city you want to use) In the end, it's mostly about the DBRs showing the same city (location). Double check receipts to see how they are printed before you start the ride.
Within this context - "You must start your SS1000 anywhere, ride to Hell, MI, and return to your starting location." Location can be defined just as it is for the DBR -
DBR - Dated Business Receipt
A DBR is a machine generated receipt with the date, time and LOCATION on it. Check it - do not assume it is correct. A receipt with an incorrect time/date/location is worthless. Check and re-check.
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What this means if if you got a start receipt in Graham, NC at the Shell on Main St, your end receipt needs to also have a location of Graham, NC on it. It doesn't matter if it's the Citgo on East Elm St or from the Bank of America drive through ATM on Pine st across from the Fire Station, it just has to specifically say Graham, NC for it's location. And both are inside the Graham city boundaries. You might get away with the Circle K on E Harden st. but it's not technically inside Graham, even though it does have a Graham address. (zero issue if you used it on both ends)
So to answer your question, Yes it can be the same city. But also Yes, it can mean the exact same location too.
IMHO If you want your certificate to say that you rode from Graham, NC to Hell, MI, then start and end inside the city limits of Graham. (or what ever city you want to use) In the end, it's mostly about the DBRs showing the same city (location). Double check receipts to see how they are printed before you start the ride.
I did the ride twice, once with a group and again solo. When I did it there was no To Hell and Back ride. This was a Lake Michigan 1000, with a stop in Hell both times and always called it the to hell and back ride. Hell is on the certificates.
I started and stopped at the same gas station because I didn't want to remember it as the To Hell and back to a different location or the almost around Lake Michigan 1000.
I noticed that the rules for the To Hell and Back ride say the "starting location" and the rules for the Lake Michigan 1000 ride say the "same city".
My route - 2009
2016
I even got the shirt.
I started and stopped at the same gas station because I didn't want to remember it as the To Hell and back to a different location or the almost around Lake Michigan 1000.
I noticed that the rules for the To Hell and Back ride say the "starting location" and the rules for the Lake Michigan 1000 ride say the "same city".
My route - 2009
2016
I even got the shirt.