Nesting question: BB1500 and B2B combo certification?

#1
Hi all,

I live in the San Diego area near a couple possible border crossing to Mexico (Otay and San Ysidro). I'll be attending WeSTOC (http://westoc.org/) at the end of June which is held this year in the Calgary area and I thought this would be a perfect opportunity to secure a B2B and BB1500 (After years of "Iron Butting it" home from this event, I finally certified my return trip last August securing an official SS1000).

I've read through the nesting information here:

http://www.ironbutt.com/themerides/nesting.html

It seems that this ride combo could work but I wanted to confirm before I make my detailed plan of attack...but here is the general idea:

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Thanks!
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Ira

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#2
The basic rule is that if one ride by definition is completed within another, we only issue one certificate. So the question here is: can one finish the proposed B2B (in this case, a 1,631 mile border to border within 36 hours) without by definition completing a BB1500 (1,500 miles within 36 hours)? The answer is no - if you complete 1,631 miles in 36 hours, you have by definition completed 1,500 miles in 36 hours.

Ira Agins
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#3
Ah. the "Can not" factor matters here. Got it. So I'd have to choose in this case. Thank you for taking the time to explain. :)

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BMW RT Pilot

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#6
BUT...if you ride 1,500 miles of that B2B in under 24 hours, then you would qualify for a BBG AND B2B. However, if you can do the B2B in under 24 hours, that would be a B2B Gold. But, if you did complete a B2B Gold, then you wouldn't be eligible for a BBG because basically, it's the same ride.

My first BBG was 2018's Fool's Gold ride. I rode 1,606 miles in just under the 24 hour limit (and yes, there is a discrepancy there- certificate says 1,606 miles, the list says 1,591), and that was hitting many construction zones.

Just some food for thought...
 

Stephen!

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#7
BUT...if you ride 1,500 miles of that B2B in under 24 hours, then you would qualify for a BBG AND B2B. However, if you can do the B2B in under 24 hours, that would be a B2B Gold. But, if you did complete a B2B Gold, then you wouldn't be eligible for a BBG because basically, it's the same ride.

My first BBG was 2018's Fool's Gold ride. I rode 1,606 miles in just under the 24 hour limit (and yes, there is a discrepancy there- certificate says 1,606 miles, the list says 1,591), and that was hitting many construction zones.

Just some food for thought...
Oops... Never mind... I missed part of your original point.... :oops:
 
#8
I think once I get to Mesquite, NV on the proposed route i'll check time and energy level to decide whether it's going to be a B2B Challenge or a BBG and B2B Challenge combo. Would really like to combo it, but I think my brother will be coming along with me on this and I don't want to have to bail on him for this. If he's able to make this trip it will be the first time we've ridden together on a multiday trip in about 8 years. Priorities. :)

Anyway, Mesquite is about the 1200 mile marker, has cheap lodging at the casinos and seems like a good place as a check point!

Either way looking forward to this!

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