Cardo vs sena

#1
Im looking to get communication helmet bluetooth.. the sena 50s or cardo packtalk.. both the same price.. im looking for some hands on experience riders have had. And which one to purchase... i do IBA runs with 1 other rider.. we want to communicate back and forth and be able to answer phone ,listening to music.. etc...
 

Nomad

Premier Member
#2
I got the Cardo packtalk last month (Feb. 2021), the dual pack. The set up was straight forward, and insanely easy. The communication between my lovely bride, on pillion, was flawless, and she liked the luxury of listening to her own phone calls and music. Went on a couple of other runs with friends which had both sena 50, and cardo and the connection was solid for up to 1 mile distance of clear view. Plus on a subsequent ride the connection was automatic, didn't have to re-pair. Not ever having the sena 50 I really can't compare the two, but for the price I paid for the dual pack, ease of set up and dependability, I feel very good about my purchase and highly recommend the Cardo. By the way one of the rides was in a heavy down pour and I had no problems. The voice activations, I would like to add were a bonus, not having to use my hands.
 

Marc11

Premier Member
#3
I've used both, and although I own the 50s due to most other riders I often travel with all using the 50s, I'd not hesitate to buy the Cardo again over the Sena.

Both work very well, especially when using mesh mode across multiple headsets.
However I found the Cardo to have better sound, easier to use controls and functions and having better battery life.

The Sena 50s is a very good unit, but the Cardo with the upgrades speakers was just a touch better.
 
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Greg Rice

Premier Member
IBR Finisher
#4
I use the Sena headsets because you can charge them while using it. In the past you could not charge a Cardo headset while using it so I started using a Sena headset. I don't know if the newer Cardo's are able to be charged while using them.

I carry a Anker portable charger in my jacket vest pocket and after 8+ hours I plug in to the Sena to charge it and at the next gas stop it is charged for another 10 hours.
 
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#5
I use the Sena headsets because you can charge them while using it. In the past you could not charge a Cardo headset while using it so I started using a Sena headset.

I carry a Anker portable charger in my jacket vest pocket and after 8+ hours I plug in to the Sena to charge it and at the next gas stop it is charged for another 10 hours.
I have a portable charger myself... you cant charge the cardo while its on and riding?
 

CB650F

Premier Member
#7
I have a Cardo, but not the Packtalk. I almost never ride with other people, so it's mostly just so I can listen to music and get directions from my phone via bluetooth. The "lesser" models do that just fine. My Cardo has worked very well so far and I like it. I wouldn't hesitate to get another one.

That being said, I'd probably have the same impression of Sena had I purchased a Sena instead. From what I can tell from my research, just buy the one that your buddies have so that pairing it is easier. Both are more than adequate for riding and chatting. It's basically different flavors of the same ice cream.
 
#8
I use Sena. Why? Because there as a great deal on Amazon for a dual pack of SHM-5’s. If Cardo had a good deal at the time I was ready to buy, I’d be using Cardo.

The reason I went with the dual pack was that it allows me the ability to swap out units during my several thousand mile trips across Americas back roads so I can charge one unit while using the other. Or on shorter day rides the ability to communicate with my passenger or another rider. I now own three SHM-5’s and a Sena Outrush helmet with the Bluetooth communicator built in.

My SMH-5 can connect to three other headsets, but can only talk to one of them at a time. Before “Mesh”, my friend, who owns two Sena 20’s, and I created our own version of mesh communications allowing for me, my passenger, him and his passenger to all talk and hear each other at the same time. This was done by connecting each of my SMH-5’s to a different one of his 20’s and his 20’s to each other. I don’t know if we could add any more into our group or not. We never tried.

I do know that the Packtalk is limited to 15 members in a group, which sounds like a lot. However, let’s say that you regularly ride with a group consisting of 15 people but today, one or two of those members decided not to ride and you have two new members that do and you want them to be included into the group. It should be as simple as deleting the two that didn’t show up to ride and adding the two new riders that did. Seems simple enough, but you can’t. You can’t delete selected individuals from the group. You can only delete an entire group. To add these two riders would require creating an entirely new group and have all of the riders reconnect into this new group. They cannot simply be transferred from the old group into the new one either. This may or may not be a problem for you. Sena has several ways to connect more than two riders into a group. You can try something like we have done above or you can user their Ride Connect app. It allows you to communicate with fellow riders all over the world using your smartphone. It's like a telephone call but with more than two people. You are not limited by the range or number of intercom connections as with Bluetooth. As long as you have cell service you can create private groups. You can talk to any of your friends anywhere in the world as long as they are using a Sena headset too. They can not dial onto the group nor connect without using a sena bluetooth headset paired to their phone. You also have to let them know the group name and the access code. It is compatible with all Sena communication devices including my ancient SMH-5’s. Or you can use one of their Mesh or Open Mesh options.

Don’t believe any of the manufactures range claims. 1/4 to 1/2 mile is really all you can reasonably expect. The Pack talk can reach further as long as you have bikes close enough to each other to act as repeater or link between those in front of them to those behind them. Sena’s Ride Connect app has no range limitations but does require a cell connection. No cell service, no communicating.

If you only ride with a friend or two, it really doesn’t matter what manufacture you choose. They both have the ability to connect to each other.
 

c10

Active Member
#9
Cardo Pac talk bold with JBL speaker option . We went this route wife , and I due to the speaker upgrade , and waterproof . had them almost 2 years now . Good stuff
 
#10
Thanks everyone for taking the time for the feedback.. i have decided to go with cardo pac talk bold with the JBL upgrade.. mainly of cardo being waterproof.. so we will soon find out.. THANKS. #74728
 

CB650F

Premier Member
#11
On my last long ride, I learned that my Cardo battery lasts about 18 hours while streaming music and navigation. Not sure if that matters or not, but I figured I'd let you know. Seemed to charge up pretty quick too.
 
#12
I use the Sena headsets because you can charge them while using it. In the past you could not charge a Cardo headset while using it so I started using a Sena headset. I don't know if the newer Cardo's are able to be charged while using them.

I carry a Anker portable charger in my jacket vest pocket and after 8+ hours I plug in to the Sena to charge it and at the next gas stop it is charged for another 10 hours.
My cardo packtalk bold can be used while charging