Garmin XT for GL1800 using the bikes intercom system

Auburn

Premier Member
#1
My goal is to upgrade both Garmin 595 to XTs. The issue is the XT is Bluetooth only and my 06 Wing does not have bluetooth. I don't want to chase bluetooth headsets because of battery life.

Currently I use a Kennedy Electronics cell sets to connect both 595s, and radar detector to the intercom system. I pair the iPhone to the primary GPS and everything is happy.

I've checked with Jonathan at Kennedy Electronics and he does not have any Bluetooth devices. I checked with J&M and they only have this Blu Hub which they confirmed only will Bluetooth with headsets. It does allow you to use corded head sets too. But that doesn't help if they won't pair with the XT.

Reaching out to see if anyone has ideas how to solve.
 

EricV

Premier Member
IBR Finisher
#2
I believe a Sena SM10 would solve your problem. Making the Wing a BT device and accepting input from both XTs.

We use one to pair an old zumo 550 non BT unit to the Sena 20S Evo headsets, but you would just be doing the reverse. Read up at the link, maybe fire an email to Sena asking about it.
 

Auburn

Premier Member
#4
Great info Eric and Shawn. Thank you!

I'm gonna try the Electrical Connections BT first and see if that solves the problem.
 
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EricV

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IBR Finisher
#5
I like the plug and play aspect, and the price, of the Electrical Connections device, but I wonder aloud about it connecting to GPS units, never mind TWO of them.

From what I remember, phones typically use Hands-Free Profile (HFP), whereas GPS units use Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP). The Electrical Connections device is specifically designed to connect ONE phone. The Sena is designed to connect up to TWO A2DP devices, which makes me think that it's a lot more likely to handle your two XTs.

I would call Electrical Connections or email them and ask if their device will:

A - Allow multiple pairings at the same time, and how does it prioritize them?
B - Will it pair with Garmin GPS units?

I can't see how you'd connect two of the Electrical Connection devices to the bike at the same time, (if they can only handle one device). The Sena is designed to take multiple inputs from the get go.
 

Auburn

Premier Member
#7
Just talked with Electric Connections. They said their unit will pair with a Zumo XT. The output use the 3 wire input to the auxiliary system (eliminating the 3.5mm audio jack). It won't pair two units at the same time.

As a side note, they have a nifty switch panel. You need to call them for the switches, as they will custom build it up for you.
 

kwthom

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IBA Member
#8
Two differently named BT devices are what's needed. Feed outputs to a mixer/amp (AmpliRider, Mix_It2, or equivalent) and output from amp then goes to Aux in on bike.

Unfortunately, with Aux on, you have only what's there. Similar configuration I have on my 'Wing, zero GPS, one cell phone, one radar detector, one spare channel for wired GPS if needed.
 

Shawn K

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Premier Member
#9
I like the plug and play aspect, and the price, of the Electrical Connections device, but I wonder aloud about it connecting to GPS units, never mind TWO of them.

From what I remember, phones typically use Hands-Free Profile (HFP), whereas GPS units use Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP). The Electrical Connections device is specifically designed to connect ONE phone. The Sena is designed to connect up to TWO A2DP devices, which makes me think that it's a lot more likely to handle your two XTs.

I would call Electrical Connections or email them and ask if their device will:

A - Allow multiple pairings at the same time, and how does it prioritize them?
B - Will it pair with Garmin GPS units?

I can't see how you'd connect two of the Electrical Connection devices to the bike at the same time, (if they can only handle one device). The Sena is designed to take multiple inputs from the get go.
I figured you'd know more about it. You're the brains, I'm more of a pretty face. ;)
 

Auburn

Premier Member
#10
I have a couple of ideas in the works.
First, the EC BT unit will only do one GPS at a time.

Second thing, was I scored a SM10 on the Gold Wing forum at a really good price.

Gives me some options to play with and see pluses and minuses for both. Once everything gets here I'll post up what I found out as I think there are others with similar issues trying to upgrade to BT GPS units.
 
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EricV

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IBR Finisher
#11
I figured you'd know more about it. You're the brains, I'm more of a pretty face. ;)
Not sure where you got THAT idea... :D either for me or for you! ;) now where did I leave my beer?

@Auburn - Choices are good. I don't think you're the only one that will find that info useful. I look forward to reading about your first hand experience getting the 2 XTs to play nice with the Wing.
 
#13
I have the following setup...
Replaced the 3.5 aux pin with Bluetooth setup... wired into power turns on with ignition.
Have zumo... powered on with ignition...
Bluetooth connects with zumo for music and calls.
Headset connected to zumo via bluetooth
 

Auburn

Premier Member
#14
I have the following setup...
Replaced the 3.5 aux pin with Bluetooth setup... wired into power turns on with ignition.
Have zumo... powered on with ignition...
Bluetooth connects with zumo for music and calls.
Headset connected to zumo via bluetooth
I am trying to avoid the battery limitations of the bluetooth headset. I understand that many of the bluetooth headsets can be charges while riding, but the connection is not waterproof, so kind of defeats the purpose when on a long ride. I am working on a solution for the corded system on the Goldwing.

Currently waiting on a couple more cables to arrive (today or tomorrow hopefully) then I can do some testing.
 

Greg Rice

Premier Member
IBR Finisher
#15
On the back of the Garmin XT there are more than the positive and negative connectors and I spoke to Garmin about these and asked if the other 3 connectors where possibly for audio out and they where kind of like a no comment.

I have not tested mine yet.
 
#16
On the back of the Garmin XT there are more than the positive and negative connectors and I spoke to Garmin about these and asked if the other 3 connectors where possibly for audio out and they where kind of like a no comment.

I have not tested mine yet.
I saw that too. Not sure why Garmin didn’t elect to give audio and mic cables with the power. I would be interested in what you find out.