Comments - Australian Specific Rides
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The rules at http://www.ironbutt.com/themerides/anzacride are specifically NOT written like that.
It has been said that at the extremes of this sport reading comprehension becomes very important.
I understand that the author of the rules needs to now correct an error in the rules as they currently stand. Perhaps a rationale may be presented as to why attending a dawn service in the middle of the ride now appears to be specifically excluded from the rules when clearly it is the attendance at a service that anchors the ride in spirit?
Hagar I do have a suggestion. Two actually.
1) I think that some clear thinking needs to be done before the rules are written for these things. Take a bit more care with the writing to remove ambiguity.
2) Save quotation marks for when you are quoting. They are not just dangly things used to emphasise a point. Especially when you are actually misquoting your own rules inside those dangly things.
Jeff , I gave my opinion on your plan in post #3 above in good faith. I apologise for what will be seen as incorrect advice once the rules are altered.
I'm glad that you will at least have some time to modify your ride to fit with the altered rules. Good luck with the ride.
For reference, here are the rules from the above link as they stand today:
It has been said that at the extremes of this sport reading comprehension becomes very important.
I understand that the author of the rules needs to now correct an error in the rules as they currently stand. Perhaps a rationale may be presented as to why attending a dawn service in the middle of the ride now appears to be specifically excluded from the rules when clearly it is the attendance at a service that anchors the ride in spirit?
Hagar I do have a suggestion. Two actually.
1) I think that some clear thinking needs to be done before the rules are written for these things. Take a bit more care with the writing to remove ambiguity.
2) Save quotation marks for when you are quoting. They are not just dangly things used to emphasise a point. Especially when you are actually misquoting your own rules inside those dangly things.
Jeff , I gave my opinion on your plan in post #3 above in good faith. I apologise for what will be seen as incorrect advice once the rules are altered.
I'm glad that you will at least have some time to modify your ride to fit with the altered rules. Good luck with the ride.
For reference, here are the rules from the above link as they stand today:
ANZAC Day Dawn Services are held in countries other than Australia and New Zealand.
I attended an ANZAC Day Dawn Service in Damascus some years ago. I don't recommend going there this year.
Perhaps the Australian Embassy in Washington organises one every year. If so, why not allow this ride to be undertaken in the US?
I attended an ANZAC Day Dawn Service in Damascus some years ago. I don't recommend going there this year.
Perhaps the Australian Embassy in Washington organises one every year. If so, why not allow this ride to be undertaken in the US?
I have no issue with this being an Australian or New Zealand only ride.
My coment was to do with the exclusive reason given for this restriction. The ride can only be done in Australia or New Zealand for the very reason that it must be started or concluded before or after an ANZAC Day Dawn Service.
Do we even need a reason to declare it to be an Australian or New Zealand only ride?
My coment was to do with the exclusive reason given for this restriction. The ride can only be done in Australia or New Zealand for the very reason that it must be started or concluded before or after an ANZAC Day Dawn Service.
Do we even need a reason to declare it to be an Australian or New Zealand only ride?
Good grief !!
No one is suggesting anything like that.
Should anyone wish to ride to an ANZAC service on ANZAC Day anywhere in the world then that is fantastic, submit an application to the IBA if you have completed an IBA ride, should you wish to do so. If you wish to complete the IBA ride listed as The ANZAC Day Ride then you need to do so in accordance with the appropriate requirements.
No one is suggesting anything like that.
Should anyone wish to ride to an ANZAC service on ANZAC Day anywhere in the world then that is fantastic, submit an application to the IBA if you have completed an IBA ride, should you wish to do so. If you wish to complete the IBA ride listed as The ANZAC Day Ride then you need to do so in accordance with the appropriate requirements.
I've been of the understanding that CC50 was Sydney (Newcastle) to Perth (WA) and Melbourne to Darwin. CC50 Gold was Brisbane to Perth ... I could well be wrong.
There are several guys doing the Sydney to Perth ride at the moment (Skidoo and others) and (maybe for brevity??) they have called it a 50CC ... no gold. Just asking.
There are several guys doing the Sydney to Perth ride at the moment (Skidoo and others) and (maybe for brevity??) they have called it a 50CC ... no gold. Just asking.
You may have been looking for a CC50 but the ride is called a 50CC.....
You've just missed seeing it in the list (this cut and paste is from http://forum.ironbutt.org/index.php?threads/australian-specific-rides.11/ ):
Australia 50cc (Melbourne to Darwin under 50 hours)
Australia 50cc GOLD (Sydney/Brisbane to Perth (Fremantle) under 50 hours)
Western Australia 50cc GOLD ( Esperance Western Australia to Wyndham Western Australia under 50 hours)
Australia 50cc GOLD (Perth to Port Augusta to Darwin under 50 hours)
Australia 100ccc Insanity (South Coast to North Coast to South Coast in less than 100 hours!)
Australia 100ccc Insanity GOLD (West Coast to East Coast to West Coast in less than 100 hours!)
Australia Crooked 100cccccc (Pacific Ocean to the Southern Ocean to the Timor Sea returning to the Southern Ocean to the Pacific Ocean in less than 100 hours!)
Australia Crooked 50cc GOLD (Newcastle, Port Augusta, Darwin)
Eliot the east/west Australia 50CC is called the 50CC GOLD. West is Perth (Scarborough, Cottesloe, Coogee and Fremantle have been used so far) and east is effectively anywhere from Sydney north (Coogee, Newcastle, Coffs Harbour and Brisbane have been used so far).
The south/north (Melbourne to Darwin) is not a gold level ride.
You've just missed seeing it in the list (this cut and paste is from http://forum.ironbutt.org/index.php?threads/australian-specific-rides.11/ ):
Australia 50cc (Melbourne to Darwin under 50 hours)
Australia 50cc GOLD (Sydney/Brisbane to Perth (Fremantle) under 50 hours)
Western Australia 50cc GOLD ( Esperance Western Australia to Wyndham Western Australia under 50 hours)
Australia 50cc GOLD (Perth to Port Augusta to Darwin under 50 hours)
Australia 100ccc Insanity (South Coast to North Coast to South Coast in less than 100 hours!)
Australia 100ccc Insanity GOLD (West Coast to East Coast to West Coast in less than 100 hours!)
Australia Crooked 100cccccc (Pacific Ocean to the Southern Ocean to the Timor Sea returning to the Southern Ocean to the Pacific Ocean in less than 100 hours!)
Australia Crooked 50cc GOLD (Newcastle, Port Augusta, Darwin)
Eliot the east/west Australia 50CC is called the 50CC GOLD. West is Perth (Scarborough, Cottesloe, Coogee and Fremantle have been used so far) and east is effectively anywhere from Sydney north (Coogee, Newcastle, Coffs Harbour and Brisbane have been used so far).
The south/north (Melbourne to Darwin) is not a gold level ride.
You are right, your understanding was wrong as is calling it a CC50 or CC50 Gold. The four riders are attempting a 50CC Gold and you are right again in their calling it a 50CC for brevity.
You will also notice a Western Australia 50CC Gold from Esperance to Wyndham.
At this stage there is only one 50CC ride listed in Australia and as Peter mentioned it is from Melbourne to Darwin
You will also notice a Western Australia 50CC Gold from Esperance to Wyndham.
At this stage there is only one 50CC ride listed in Australia and as Peter mentioned it is from Melbourne to Darwin
Hi All , Just to add the note about the Coast to Coast calcification that may help some riders...
It's down to the km/miles that warrants the ride to be a standard 50CC or a 50CC gold..
Example. the WA coast to coast.... has both.
If you do the Coast road Esperance, Perth, Canavion to Wyndham the km/mileage is a gold version. 50CC Gold
If you cut through Newman to Wyndham it's a Standard 50CC.
When registering the WA ride we took the long route to show it could be done within the time period with time to rest.
Unfortunately I never had a chance to do the standard version to put in on the books, but was submitted to MK for a ride classification.
Perth, Port Augusta to Darwin is well over the Gold version km/Miles and is still waiting for an Insanity tag for it but believe this is on the bottom of the list of things to look at from MK
It's down to the km/miles that warrants the ride to be a standard 50CC or a 50CC gold..
Example. the WA coast to coast.... has both.
If you do the Coast road Esperance, Perth, Canavion to Wyndham the km/mileage is a gold version. 50CC Gold
If you cut through Newman to Wyndham it's a Standard 50CC.
When registering the WA ride we took the long route to show it could be done within the time period with time to rest.
Unfortunately I never had a chance to do the standard version to put in on the books, but was submitted to MK for a ride classification.
Perth, Port Augusta to Darwin is well over the Gold version km/Miles and is still waiting for an Insanity tag for it but believe this is on the bottom of the list of things to look at from MK
Jeffrey, the requirements for the ride, which include a clarification of the attendance at a ANZAC Day Dawn Service, has been updated. http://www.ironbutt.com/themerides/anzacride/